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Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

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Progressive Scan - MPN: DVDHD841

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  By member: jasmccrty - Jan 19, 2005

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: DVI

Weakness: Remote signal is weak. Remote has to be directly pointed at player

I have had this dvd player for about 7 months. I did not have any problems up until the last 2 weeks. I am now loosing my dvi setting when I power it off. The only way I can get it back is by using component cables. S-Video cables do not let me save the option for dvi.

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  By member: zeta10 - Dec 7, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Looks nice, good picture, has DVI output, Dolby 5.1 output

Weakness: Need for initial multiple video hook-up if you want to use DVI

I purchased this DVD player because I needed one that had progressive scan/ HD and it had the output that I needed (Dolby 5.1 audio since my reciever does not have an integral decoder, and DVI for video, which is supposidly higher fidelity than component video.)

Anyway, in order to use the DVI output, you need to use the onscreen menu to activate it. There is an inherant problem here in trying to use on-screen menus to get the video hook-up to work; if you cant see video, you cant set up the video and if you can't set up the video you can't see the video.
Anyway, I had a spare s-video cable lieing around, so I hooked that up and was able to do the on-screen changes, athough it took a couple tries because you only get a 10-second window to confirm it...
So now it works great. Contrary to an older review, I haven't found that it has lost my settings when you turn it off. I don't know if it will when it is unplugged.

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  By member: pjmacl - Sep 11, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Basic operation is ok

Weakness: Its price is based on its DVI output which does not work correctly

Samsung has an excellent concept but has failed on the implementation. The roughly $200 price point is justified by the DVI output and the ability to interpolate up to 1080i. However there are two major problems. Firstly the design approach is flawed as while you can select among 4 different resolutions from the DVI output, the selection is NOT held after power down. Thus you have to reselect each time you use the unit. More disastrously, Samsung did not correctly implement HDCP on the DVI output. What this means is that for some HDTVs and in particular if you use an external DVI switch between the DVD unit and your HDTV, the DVD signal gets blocked as soon as you change from the default lowest resolution. Samsung has been very unhelpful addressing this latter problem. I have discussed with their Technical Support. They acknowledge that the HDCP problem existed on their higher end HD-931 unit and that the s/w has been been updated to fix it, and they have also acknowledged that the HD-841 uses the same s/w. However they will not acknowledge the problem on the HD-841. How's that for double-speak? As the unit is basically non functional for DVI use I returned it to my retailer for credit, and I asked Samsung to credit the distributor's shipping and restocking fee but they refused.
Caveat emptor!

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  By member: jaustindds - Sep 16, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: decent picture.

Weakness: just decent picture.

For those that are considering buying this DVD player please understand that I believe the quality of picture you will get depends on what you are hooking the player up to. I have a Hitachi HD 50v500 widescreen LCD. This television has a processor inside that upconverts a normal analog component input (for example a 480P signal) to virtual HD. Therefore on my previous progressive scan player, the picture was pretty good. It was still not as great as a true 760 or 1080 signal, but definitely better than SD signals. This is where you need to know what is happening to a sub-HD signal inside your t.v./monitor. This DVD player upconverts the 480p signal inside and passes this signal digitally via the DVI cable. This player is basically completing the same job that the Hitachi would be doing inside the t.v., resulting in a similar picture quality, which again is good but definitely not HD. If you have a t.v./monitor which doesn't upconvert a sub-hd signal to virtual hd, then this player will noticably improve your picture quality. But what it comes down to is this, how can you create more pixels when the pixels aren't there on the DVD to begin with? There is no such thing currently in the U.S. as an HD-DVD, therefore we are stuck with a computer to approximate and fill in more pixels.
Bottom line, check with the manufacturer of your t.v./monitor to see what it is doing with a sub-hd signal before investing in this player. For me a progressive scan player will suffice until the HD-DVD's come out.

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  By member: sgtmack - Dec 13, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Plenty of out puts. Has DVI and component video, plays cd, dvr's.

Weakness: none so far.

Plenty of people are complaning about loosing their settings when they turn off the dvd player. Well what i found to fix this problem for me is to along with the dvi conection is to also hook up a video out from the dvd to the tv. Now i don't have to go into the dvd players menu to select the dvi every time i turn it off.

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  By member: lucerrr1 - Jan 19, 2005

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Appealing bezel

Weakness: Cheap connectors, disks skip, settings will not stay, DVI will not work

I recently purchased the Samsung 841 for the price and for the fact it was one of the few DVI dvd players out that was under $200. Needless to say I will be returning it today. Unfortunately I read the feedback forums on this model after buying, and if I had read before purchasing, I would have never got this model. Here are the issues (some are already known):

1) Manual is horribly lacking - in order to configure the PSCAN - DVI feature, you have to hook up either component, s-video or composite connection first in order to even get to the dvd setup menu to choose this option

2) DVI hookup never did work - I have a 42" Sony PFM42V1S plasma that I was able to get the component working to change the dvd setup menu, however the DVI output would never sync at any resolution. All I kept getting is a solid blue blinking screen (this after using Vid Sel and DVI sel on remote). I tried both HDCP and non-HDCP disks to eliminate the possibility that my tv may have the issue - same results.

3) DVD's skip - I tried this with several dvd's that I know play fine ( I also own a Sony DAV-FC8 home theatre) and each one skips periodically through out. I have read previous forum reviews on this model and this is a known problem.

4) Remote is unresponsive unless pointed DIRECTLY at the unit, and if you are more than 7ft away from the player, forget it. This became very frustrating.

NOTE: Samsung has issued a firmware upgrade for the 841 model that will auto-detect DVI input. I applied the firmware upgrade (which was very simple) but it made no difference.

As far as looks go for this model, it is very appealing, smooth lines, not alot of clutter and I love the silver finish, however the thing simply just doesn't work. The picture with RGB component cables is satisfactory, but I get better quality picture thru my digital cable box on HD channels. The skipping of dvd's is unacceptable, and the only reason I bought it was for the DVI output, however since that doesn't even work properly, this unit is going back.

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  By member: hey_moe - Jul 18, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Easy to use/ when it works

Weakness: Total piece of crap

This is the third one I have had to return. I have read on line that others have had the same problem. What has been happening is when you load a dvd disk it locks up and you are stuck from that point on. If you return it make sure you let them know the name of the dvd disk that is in there. This must be a ongoing problem with this player. I have owned many DVD players but this one has got to be the worst I have ever seen in production.

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  By member: DJslowlife - Nov 25, 2004

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: It powers up consistently. The blue lighted display looks nice.

Weakness: The DVI setup is lost each time the unit is powered off. The composite video output works better than the DVI output. Sound from 5.1 channel SACDs and DVD-audio is only output to front two speakers.

As other reviewers have stated, the HD-841 DVI function is not designed properly and must have the setup parameters re-entered every time you turn it back on again. I was not that impressed with the DVI capability and found that I got a better picture using the composite video output.

On the side of the HD-841 box it states that it plays 5.1 channel SACDs and DVD-audios in multichannel sound. This unit can not do what it is represented to do. I called the Samsung technical dept and they confirmed that the HD-841 can only play TWO of the SIX channels that should be output for SACDs and DVD-audio. It outputs sound for the front left and right speakers only. No sound is output for the center channel, the two surround sund rear channels, the subwoofer, or the rear center channel when SACDs or DVD-audio is played. The Hd-841 does output sound to all speakers when a DVD video disk is played. I have found the customer service center people at Samsung to be unresponsive. The tech people and service reps do not communicate. I got tired of the run around from Samsung and returned the HD-841. This turned out to be a blessing, because I bought a Pioneer 578a and it performs flawlessly compared to an HD-841. Do not waste your time and money on an hd-841 that can not do all of the functions it is supposed to perform.

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Reply by member: Snommis69
Dec 9, 2004

A rebuttal to this review - the comments about this player and DVD-A and SACD are not true. I have owned this player for quite some time, and it plays DVD-A and SACD in beautiful 5.1 surround.

I suspect that users that have this issue simply do not know how to set up a proper 5.1 cabling system, or are being limited by their reciever.

Reply by member: glanghus
Jan 15, 2005

IT PLAYS 5.1 SACD/DVD-A just fine. This person obviously doesn't know how to use the player, and unfortunately, tech support couldn't help that individual :(

Reply by member: lucerrr1
Jan 19, 2005

I recently purchased the Samsung 841 for the price and for the fact it was one of the few DVI dvd players out that was under $200. Needless to say I will be returning it today. Unfortunately I read the feedback forums on this model after buying, and if I had read before purchasing, I would have never got this model. Here are the issues (some are already known):

1) Manual is horribly lacking - in order to configure the PSCAN - DVI feature, you have to hook up either component, s-video or composite connection first in order to even get to the dvd setup menu to choose this option

2) DVI hookup never did work - I have a 42" Sony PFM42V1S plasma that I was able to get the component working to change the dvd setup menu, however the DVI output would never sync at any resolution. All I kept getting is a solid blue blinking screen (this after using Vid Sel and DVI sel on remote).

3) DVD's skip - I tried this with several dvd's that I know play fine ( I also own a Sony DAV-FC8 home theatre) and each one skips periodically through out. I have read previous forum reviews on this model and this is a known problem.

NOTE: Samsung has issued a firmware upgrade for the 841 model that will auto-detect DVI input. I applied the firmware upgrade (which was very simple) but it made no difference.

As far as looks go for this model, it is very appealing, smooth lines, not alot of clutter and I love the silver finish, however the thing simply just doesn't work. The picture with RGB component cables is satisfactory, but I get better quality picture thru my digital cable box on HD channels. The skipping of dvd's is unacceptable, and the only reason I bought it was for the DVI output, however since that doesn't even work properly, this unit is going back.

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  By member: mrtwo - Mar 19, 2005

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Great picture! Great looking DVD player.

Weakness: Does not include HDMI adapter.

I was concerned when I first hooked up the DVD player to my hdmi input using a dvi to hdmi converter since there was no video, only a blue screen. I had to hook up composite cable and change the DVI mode via the instructions. After this, the video was great! The player does upconvert to several modes. On my Panasonic 60 inch LCD projection set I am able to get 480p, 720p, and 1080i to work perfectly. I have not yet seen any skipping. Trying to get a fair comparison, I compared freeze frames of the same movie on several different settings and also against my Toshiba progressive scan DVD going through component video. I did not see any noticible difference when looking at the paused screens. I am not sure if this is a fair comparison as I believe the processing looks better in motion.

One other note worth mentioning would be that to get the best picture you definitely need to use the DVI out. Unfortunately for me, I have only one HDMI input on the back of my set and if I choose to use the DVI or HDMI input for Hidef from a tuner I will have to use a swith box of some sort.

Overall, I would say that the picture is great although I am not sure if there is too much more that you can get out of a picture from a DVD since the resolution on DVD is 480p from what I have read. I did find out that this particular model does not use the faroudja chip as some of the other Samsung upconverting dvd players use. It might be that that chip would show more of a difference, but I am not sure until I see it myself.

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  • 5
  By member: ogre71 - Feb 1, 2005

Samsung DVD-HD841 DVD Player

Strengths: Super buy. Save 40% from Best Buy and no tax. Samsung has a super product that improves DVD quality by 30% from progressive scan.

Weakness: 90 day warranty for the Refurb.

The picture quality is outstanding on my HDTV. Major improvement from my Toshiba Progessive Scan DVD Player. Super deal when comparing a Panasonic or Sony HD up-conversion DVD player. Outstanding value for the dollar.

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